How to Pray When You Feel Nothing - Kate Bowler & Malcom Guite

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How to Pray When You Feel Nothing - Kate Bowler & Malcom Guite

"What if joy doesn’t mean pretending everything is fine?

In this deeply honest conversation, Kate Bowler sits down with poet, priest, and theologian Malcolm Guite to talk about depression, prayer, Lent, language, and why clichés like “everything happens for a reason” can actually deepen our suffering.

Together they explore:

Why poetry can say what prayer sometimes can’t

The difference between toxic positivity and real hope

How depression affects faith (and why it’s not a spiritual failure)

What Lent teaches us about sitting with what’s already gone

Why sharp, honest language matters more than easy answers

If you’ve ever struggled with doubt, grief, or the feeling that faith should feel easier than it does — this conversation is for you.

This episode is part of Everything Happens with Kate Bowler, where we tell the truth about suffering, joy, and the mystery of being human." from the video introduction

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