Video from Dr. Michael S. Heiser
How to Talk With People in Cult Groups - Dr. Michael Heiser
"I do this often in Q&A. I said to people in fringe groups or cults: "here's how to win this discussion. Here's how to bring me from where I am to where you are. These are the things I must know. I can't agree with you unless you solve this for me. So, solve it for me. Can you help me? Because I'm willing to listen. And if you can do that, we're good. You know." So, it helps, it gives them homework. But you're gonna have to start the ball rolling. Because in a lot of these systems, they just don't think about what their positions mean." from video introduction